sqgl, yo, could you compile pd 0.39? no am tryin to get around gpg hm.. trying to turn off gpg key check when i use um to instal tcl-headers ok OK we've just managed that now as i type so we r now installin tcl-headers yeah! then i will try the make again. it is good 2 have u online just in case no, do configure first am i whowing up as "away" i turned on "away" in another chennel but maybe i am "away" here tpp ok wil do configure again, then make actually tcl-headers was no found yum was merely updating other stuff from repository * Disconnected (Connection reset by peer). * Disconnected (). * Disconnected (). * Disconnected (). * sqgl already in use. 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Retrying with sqgl__... * Received a CTCP VERSION from freenode-connect * Now talking on #dataflow * Topic for #dataflow is: ♫ The PureData Chatline ♫ The Diagram is the Program (tm) ♫ http://puredata.info/ ♫ http://desiredata.goto10.org/ ♫ http://gridflow.ca/ ♫ cvs -d:pserver:anonymous@pure-data.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/pure-data co -r devel_0_39 pd ♩♬♫♩♪♩ http://wiki.dataflow.ws/DataFlow ♩ http://wiki.dataflow.ws/FormationTeddi ♩ * Topic for #dataflow set by matju at Mon Sep 04 04:42:21 2006 * #dataflow :[freenode-info] if you need to send private messages, please register: http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg am back just found tcl-devel.i386 which i hop has tcl.h inside it.... will soon fin out i am just having a look at: http://fedora.redhat.com/docs/yum/en/ tcl-devel.i386 sounds pretty good also look for tk-devel ok may you also have a look at this: http://www.fedorafaq.org/#gpgsig it seems, it's about getting gpg-keys have turned off gpg key checkign but thanks will keep this url for future use redid autoconf redid ./configure now doin make install * sqgl has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) normally you do first 'make' as user and then 'make install' as root well i just did make install as root and it seeomed to work do u thnk there will be problems because i did not do make as user? the instructiosn said just do make install as root if u want * sqgl_ has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) technically it makes no difference is _chat.pd text based chat or voice based? but like that you will create some files owned by root in your user -directory hihi chat based netpd does no streaming OK, that won't be a problem it only sychronizes data over the net fine * matju (n=matju@bas6-montreal28-1177926077.dsl.bell.ca) has left #dataflow ("Leaving") pd works now? does it let one machine control another machine's pd objects? i think jack is screwed now tho :( :-( will restart jack yes, an arbtrary number of clients can have a session together. when someone opens a netpd-patch, the patch will automatically open on the other clients machines. so everyone can play with a certain patch (synthesizer, sequencer or whatever) also, do hear and see the changes made to some settings of the patch * joblessgerman is now known as eurotrash it 's like everyone connected uses the same control-interface for making music sounds gr8! well it will when i get som actual sound :) hopefully * slvmchn has quit (Remote closed the connection) hmmm i've opened jack hit start button hi connections button but do not see pd input or output did you compile with jack support ? (dunno if standard on) no no, it is not standard and again, you need header :) (of jack) so which file do i change? oh greatttt ./configure --enable-jack hm. you need to install the jack-headers too ok hopefully i already have header * warp has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) had to do another autoconf you may allso want --enable-alsa (./configure --help shows all flags) alsa seemed to be available by default but i will explicitly enable configuring now i'll have to compile notes for other newbies sqgl__: sounds great ! u guys may want to join me for gig if this works * kijjaz (n=kijjaz@ppp-58.8.74.92.revip2.asianet.co.th) has joined #dataflow see http://jo.koan.net/s2n * dgtlmoon has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) sqgl__, thursday 23 september is already over, isn't it? hm.23 was not a thursday november has 23. at thursday ;) aha.. sqgl__, when is this happening? umm Thu, Sept 23rd that's what it says on site 2006? yes tomorrow but tomorrow we have the 28, i think /time - * zelazny.freenode.net :Wednesday September 27 2006 -- 13:50:43 +00:00 ahhh :-) anyhow the physical flier has 28th ok it is 28th * eurotrash has quit ("call it the quits") damn time-frames ;) in the evening? yes evening GMT Sheffield UK well, 23 is like 3/4 of 28 ;) hm..then.i.will.be.on.a.train.to.berlin trans-europe-express :_ hihi :) u got wireless on train? (wishful but unrealistic thinking) suddenly i cannot join your session. but maybe other people from netpd now, suddenly not. Damn now when i start jack usin command qjackctl i am told Warning: no locale found: /usr/share/locale/qjackctl_en_GB_.UTF-8.qm Will ask one of the "experts" here in the room with me what that means i think that is only somethin interface specific, but nothing with audio. sqgl__: as its "only" warning, does it still run ? i think it misses kinf of a languafe file for the qjackctl-interface * oskude goes home * oskude has quit ("Leaving") c u oksude pd runs but same problem pd does not show up as input/output in jack and jack not available as audio device in pd you.need to tell pd to start with jack pd .jack sorry: pd -jack or you can use the 'Media'-menu choose jack as adriver oops sorry i've overseen your last line * kijjaz (n=kijjaz@ppp-58.8.74.92.revip2.asianet.co.th) has left #dataflow jack does not appear in Media menu but have more important question i just remembered that i have not "installed" zexy i am not sure, but i think, when it does not appear in the media menu, then it is not compiled with jack-suppoert or Maxlib it shoudl also appear, when jack is not running, agaik afaik yeah, and also the iemlibs iemlibs!? first i heard of that i told you in the mail, that some patches, that netpd-users made, use other externals, like iemmatrix and iemlib ahh yes, u did recommend to really have fun with netpd, you should install them too l8r but maybe i can post you binaries if you want What do i do with the maxlib file? Where do i put it? binaries for fedora core3? there should be a directory somewhere, that contains all pd-stuff except the binary itself. try /usr/local/lib/pd if yes. put the .pd_linux file into /usr/local/lib/pd/extra zexy.pd_linux file is indeed in /usr/local/lib/pd it should be in /usr/local/lib/pd/extra, is it there in the extra-folder? all externals should be placed in the extra-folder. this pd's standardpath to look for externals * ideacritik has quit () yes, sorry, i did mean /usr/local/lib/pd/extra so do i move maxlib.pd_linux there too? yes done * ideacritik (n=asamson@dyn143-102.student.ov.hro.nl) has joined #dataflow Now what does "install" of netpd mean? cool. then create file called '.pdrc' in your home directory to save some settings, so pd uses them on every start * kijjaz (n=kijjaz@ppp-58.8.74.92.revip2.asianet.co.th) has joined #dataflow no actuall linux "install" involved from what i understand. just donwload the netpd.tar.gz and untar it to wherever you want ok will create .pdrc sorry, this is maybe a bit misleading write into .pdrc: * Toasterboy (i=kcampbel@mail.idokorro.com) has joined #dataflow -lib zexy -lib maxlib so pd will always load these externals on startup well i have tried pd -open _chat.pd but nothing opens except for the pd console (or whatever it is called) have added abs, docs, zexy, maxlib to .netpdrc but perhaps i created .netpdrc in wrong folder i just created it in my home folder ie in ~ Hve just copied ~/.netpdrc into my current directory but still pd does no open _chat.pd and remember that there is still no jack ok... step by step. ok there is no .netpdrc. but a .pdrc yes there is oh where you can create yourself one in your homedirectory damn.. the instructio did say .pdrc not .netpdrc Sorry, of course it is .netpdrc, will rename it Woohoo!!!! Finally! Too bad i am in England They don't allow shoutin for joy here (or screaming with frustration... so perhaps it is just as well :) haha i c u cool where do i type in _chat? in the white area below 'dein senf:' there won't be a cursor, just start to type after clicking in the field t white area has "symbol" written in it and i cannot overwrite yes you can, it won't show up any cursor. click into it and start to type And cannot change any of the settings "Name:" field has "name" in it and i cannot overwrite ti yes.you can just type something But i stlil have the jack problem did i need to make zexy with jacl option? jack nope Maybe i have fried Linux on this machine. Gnome (the deskto pmanager) is screwed up and needs to be re-installed So perhaps i try the whle procedure again on another machine (net)pd should work fine with any audio driver you choose seeing as i need netpd running on several machines anyhow OK then now how do i share a patch with u? or u with me? sqgl__, you only need to --enable-jack when compiling pd, but not for the externals i'll show you in netpd that is the easiest thing of it Can we chat here tho so that i can save my entire irc session as documentatoin? i still cannot change my username via settings button of course you should only type in your name then hit enter and then click the save-button at the bottom OK same like the chat field exactly the symbolbox in pd is not that inuitive in use, i admit DIO errors says ADC bloked Analogue-to-Digital-COnverters... the sound card i presume Am waiting fro someone here in my (physical) room to help me with the jack problem How long u going to be around fortoday Roman (to help)?