cool goof good goof! :) how do i turn off /AWAY in irc i appear as away don't i? still making... done don't know. where can i see that? in the user list some of us are greyed out i type /AWAY in another channel but i think it applies here i haven't used irc for a while and forget the opposite of /AWAY n omatter what does you make think so? now i do make install as rot? i didn't know of a comman /away :-) there are so many irc-commands i don't know.. aha.yes you are grey i think it applies to all channels. this makes the most sense, doesn't it? unless onen is lyin to som channels >:) anyhow, back to pd do i now do make install as root? yes making done now trying pd again ok.lets see if you have jack-support now.. yes i have jack supprt jack is here? great!!! i must have goof'ed the flag b4 goof good so now i try install the other two libs? yes do you want to try to compile them yourself? i mean, you already got the sources? don't know i will look in extensions folder from cvs? i mean externals they will be there in the iem-folder yes iemmatrix acutally, you have to compile all parts of the iemlib-external separately. these are: iemlib1 iemlib2 iem_mp3 iem_t3_lib and the last is iemmatrix r they in folder iemlib? yes but iemmatrix is in iem/iemmatrix i think yes but do i eplicitly need to install lib1,2,mp3,t3_lib or do i just go to iemlib and do a make an that will take care of all of those? i don't know exactly. i only managed it yet, to compile each of them separately and as i can remember, i had to modify the makefile of each a bit. adding the path to pd's src-directory i think i will forget about this until after the workshop will design some simple patches of my own for gig which will be mainly ambient manipulating spoken-word hm * nedko has quit ("exit(0);") i think it will be more time consuming to create your own netd-patches in the time, than using some ready-to-use netpd-patches i posted the binaries here: i am jsu modifying some of the example patches and linkin them together http://www.netpd.org/~roman/iemlibs.tar.gz already done a bit ah.cool will these binaries work for my Fedora system? but beware. you cannot use samples in netpd patches, or audio input yes i think so wot? so pd is not fully functional in netpd? i mean you *can* use it, but you cannot stream audio or send samples to other clients yes it is i want one machine with good soundcard to produce the sound and others to be able to manipulate it. Does this sound possible? yesm i'd say OK will try your binaries in what little time we have together i think what you want to is a bit special. normally, the idea of netpd is that many user from different locations can make sound with each other, so that everyone heears the same. but in your case there are a few people in the same room, and they want to control the sound of one machine, is that right? that is right * [1]wip (n=wip@MTL-HSE-ppp165590.qc.sympatico.ca) has joined #dataflow ok. that means, only the machine that is producing the sound must store the samples or have an adc yes * [2]wip (n=wip@HSE-Montreal-ppp3472219.sympatico.ca) has joined #dataflow what i was saying, that you cannot share samples with netpd, although it is possible to make patches, that use samples no wot do i do with those binaries oh, ok but then you would need to install the samples manually first that means i will not be able to share samples within the netpd community put them also into /usr/local/lib/pd/extra ...unless... we send samples to each other *before* the jam... yes? and then add the line to your .pdrc: exactly good now wot do i do with those binaries please? -lib iemlib1:iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_mp3:iem_t3_lib put them also into /usr/local/lib/pd/extra -lib... in my .netrc file? .pdrc yes goof! oops. i did a mistake: -lib iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_mp3:iem_t3_lib done but no the iemmax thingy iemmatrix * wip has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * [2]wip is now known as wip what is with the iemmatrix? * ideacritik has quit () readin the INSTALL.txt do i neede to make as user before "make install" as root? does it not work? yes. make just comiles everything. make install puts all the files to the right directories. since these normally are owned by root, you need to do make install as root do i need to autoconfig to create the ./config? maybe yes try it, if there is no confgure autoconf ahhh ./configure make su make install ./configure done make making... * [1]wip has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) done su make install done cool * dyno (n=dyno@tre93-1-89-80-198-142.dsl.club-internet.fr) has joined #dataflow then lets see if it works.. oops, i found an error again. wot error ? add also -lib iemmatrix to your .pdrc i forgot iemmatry iemmatrix of course i should have thought of that also rime is ticking... time yeah, i should go now.. but when it works now, it is very easy for the other people in netpd to give you an introduction into netpd iemmatrix loaded? i dunno sqgl__: i can show you around there in a few minutes, but i'm on the phone right now thanks syntax_tn, rdz has to leave soon i know try to create matrix object into a new window or see the pd window. it should mention iemmatrix somewhere i tried it in chat window hehe and it was created two ins, and one out. is that OK? yeah, it created...good ok. for a working netpd-installation, we need still two things: done it in new window also tow more things ?? yes: does it ever end? add to your .pdrc: Matrix Reloaded? haha yes... add... -path to/your/netpd/abs so that you can create the abstractions used by netpd for example: -path /home/roman/netpd/abs got that already and doc cool try to create netpd-f into a new window so am i able to look at a patch on you machien? not already * Mi5 has quit ("Oups...") what do u mean create netpd-f ? create an object [netpd-f] ok just to check if you can create the netpd-abs object has dashed lines around it hm.. that is not good that means the path is not set correctly ok will check the path where is your netpd-directory located? abs path isok hm.. can you post your .pdrc here? ~/Squiggle/PerData.NetPD/pd_install_via_manual_downloads_netpd/abs (i like heirarchical organisation :) ok will post it.. via a USB stick ? just copy it here into the chat. i think it is ok, since only we are talking right now but i am using chat on a windows laptop aha. i see... sorry hm... i can't figure out anything else but a wrong path....... damn.. didn't transfer to memory stick probably have to unmoubnt gracefully unmount hm... i must go now. ok thanks hopefully syntax_tn can help me with .pdrc thank you very much ask syntax. he is also on linux and i think he can help you then the fun part will begin.... ciao sqgl__ ciao bella sqgl__: i'll be ready soon, just a few minutes ok * ashk (n=ashk@82.224.204.40) has joined #dataflow Here are the conents of my .pdrc file -lib iemlib1:iemlib2:iem_mp3:iem_t3_lib -lib iemmatrix -path ~/Squiggle/PureData/NetPD/pd_install_via_manual_downloads/netpd/abs -helppath ~/Squiggle/PureData/NetPD/pd_install_via_manual_downloads/netpd/doc -lib zexy -lib maxlib i think problem is permissions on those folders, they were owned by root * dyno has quit ("Quitte") no * h220 has quit ("220hex tok kvelden!") still cannot create netpd-f sqgl__:just a minute... it was the bloody tilde the Squiggle the sqgl u there syntax_tn ? sqgl__: yes, but still on the phone * nedko (n=nedko@c87-71.cable.netissat.bg) has joined #dataflow * alx1 (n=alx1@137.122.128.130) has joined #dataflow * alx_ (n=alx@137.122.128.137) has joined #dataflow * gisle (n=gif@191.80-202-240.nextgentel.com) has joined #dataflow * shift8 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * shift8 (n=shift8@static-64-79-123-42.wiline.com) has joined #dataflow * darsha (n=TELE@62.160.189.132) has joined #dataflow alx1; * warp (n=warp@frob.nl) has joined #dataflow alx1; hi, any luck with skype? darsha, yes it is re-installed my skype name is mathieubouchard darsha: what's yours? matju: darrrsha * tasmo has quit (Remote closed the connection) sqgl__:still there? sorry to keep you waiting so long * oskude (n=osku@dslb-084-058-245-018.pools.arcor-ip.net) has joined #dataflow still here trying to duplicate the install proces on three other machines but in meantime u can help introduce me to netpd which i think i have runnning ok now sqgl__: sure, just log into netpd and i'll show you around ok im in * darsha has quit ("Quitte") * np3228 has quit (Remote closed the connection) * _heri_away is now known as _heri <_heri> matju: hey * shift8 has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * shift8 (n=shift8@static-64-79-123-42.wiline.com) has joined #dataflow alx_:have you shipped the plotter for Bergen? gisle, not yet gisle, I will probably ship it as a non-art object, otherwise it will take too long and be too expensive * alx1 has quit ("This computer has gone to sleep") alx_, hi, do you want me to go with it ;) gisle, I am planning on sending it on Monday or Tuesday next week oups wip, heh wip, you are the best courrier I know. wip, I'll be in Montreal on Saturday. I could pick up the clock :-) heading out... * alx_ has quit ("Quitte") alx_:ok, good, please keep Ase updated on how/when/where ;) mamalala, finally alx will have the clock ;) mamalala, i need to find it hehehe wip: ;-) _heri: hey * shift8 has quit (Connection timed out) * dpro has quit (Read error: 110 (Connection timed out)) * dpro (n=x@84-75-132-162.dclient.hispeed.ch) has joined #dataflow * dostoyev1ky (i=sck@oerks.net) has joined #dataflow re